Happy Martin Luther King Day!!

mingez

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Just wanted to say Happy MLK Day! He, as all of you know was a brilliant man.

For those of you who have read his Letter from a Birmingham Jail, you have seen the brilliance and intellect this man possessed. For those of you who haven't, it's a MUST READ.

I just wanted to put up a post in honor of one of my heroes. We are all lucky he graced our country with his courage, and helped move our country in the right direction.

Where have people like him gone?

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But though I was initially disappointed at being categorized as an extremist, as I continued to think about the matter I gradually gained a measure of satisfaction from the label. Was not Jesus an extremist for love: "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." Was not Amos an extremist for justice: "Let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream." Was not Paul an extremist for the Christian gospel: "I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus." Was not Martin Luther an extremist: "Here I stand; I cannot do otherwise, so help me God." And John Bunyan: "I will stay in jail to the end of my days before I make a butchery of my conscience." And Abraham Lincoln: "This nation cannot survive half slave and half free." And Thomas Jefferson: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal ..." So the question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of extremists we will be. Will we be extremists for hate or for love? Will we be extremist for the preservation of injustice or for the extension of justice? In that dramatic scene on Calvary's hill three men were crucified. We must never forget that all three were crucified for the same crime---the crime of extremism. Two were extremists for immorality, and thus fell below their environment. The other, Jesus Christ, was an extremist for love, truth and goodness, and thereby rose above his environment. Perhaps the South, the nation, and the world are in dire need of creative extremists.
You can (and should) view a copy of the entire letter here: PDF of a Letter from a Birmingham Jail
 
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A VERY great man and a VERY fitting holiday........unfortunately, I still had to work. And yes............the nation is in DIRE need of creative extremists.


Good post, Mingez!
 
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I question the warranting of a holiday, but that is not something I wish to debate and it certainly does not discount the fact that he made civil rights a reality for everyone in our country. He was a great man, and his passive resistance dubbed "civil disobedience" was nothing short of brilliant - and very effective. I wish he were around today. The likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton could not hold a candle to Dr. King.
 
I question the warranting of a holiday, but that is not something I wish to debate
Yeah, let's not. Probably shouldn't even mention it. That's a REAL bad debate, that always gets ugly.


Anyway, I read his Letter when I was an 8th Grader. I remember it well. It changed my life, and the way I perceived world. It's an amazing document.
 

I did a Power Point Presentation on MLK last year and I started it off mentioning Michael Luther King Jr and people started to raise their hand to correct me, but his birth name was Michael, not Martin, he changed it later. Luckily, I had some support in the audience which calmed everyone down and confirmed my statement. I think the difference in then and now, is strictly politics and the quid pro quo. Back then, he fought for rights and had no debts to corporations and was a true leader. No one in Washington can even begin to size up to this great man.
 
:shades: Your sooooo PC

No, it's not about political correctness, it's about bringing up a bad subject when the intent of the post is to celebrate his greatness.

It's like if a best man at a wedding toasts, and brings up the fact that white wedding dresses are a symbol of purity and virginity, and questioning it's appropriateness at this particular wedding. The bride might not be a virgin, and the statement may be valid, but it probably shouldn't be talked about on a day where the couple are trying to celebrate their union.

Dig? :shades:
 

Besides, I've been accused of many things, but being PC has never been one of them. You of all people should know that. :twisted:
 
No, it's not about political correctness, it's about bringing up a bad subject when the intent of the post is to celebrate his greatness.

It's like if a best man at a wedding toasts, and brings up the fact that white wedding dresses are a symbol of purity and virginity, and questioning it's appropriateness at this particular wedding. The bride might not be a virgin, and the statement may be valid, but it probably shouldn't be talked about on a day where the couple are trying to celebrate their union.



No, I don't see a correlation at all. I can think of a far better example.

Like when Joe, who has an associates degree in Business Management got awarded a promotion while the more educated and experienced Earl got passed over because of his lack of skin pigment. As a matter of fact, there were lots of people like Earl who were more expreienced and better qualified, but the Board felt some pressure from a minority group who were accusing them of not maintaining an "acceptable level of equality" so they went with Joe to take the pressure off and make happy the few. Truth be told everyone really liked Joe but he was obviously given favor due to his race and it did stir a bit of controversay amongst some of the employees who felt that the job should have been awarded on merit... but I though we weren't going to discuss this.

That's a REAL bad debate, that always gets ugly.
Not wanting to discuss a topic because it is feared that it cannot be done without an "ugly" result is what PC is all about. PC is about pretending the proverbial elephant in the room is not there for the noble cause of someone's "feelings".

Personally, this topic isn't one I am really passionate about so I don't see how it could get ugly from my end. If you don't think you could discuss it then you probably should have left it alone.

but since you didnt...

Like I said earlier MLK was a great man. I just know that there have been many great men throughout our history who have accomplished great things, yet we don't shut down the Federal, State, and local governments, the stock market, banks, schools, etc.

Heck, Lincoln and Washington don't even have their own days anymore. They've combined them into one day, and their names have been removed from the name of the holiday.

King was most famous for his speech. Patrick Henry stood in front of a room full of weary, reluctant men who feared England and feared war. His speech inspired them to stand up for themselves. His speech inspired our nation to rise up and fight a war that the whole world deemed impossible to defeat tyranny so that close to two centuries later MLK was in a land with a 1st Amendment to a Constitution that allowed him to speak freely.

I could write an entire book about why we ought to honor Thomas Jefferson with a holiday.

I'm not putting down MLK. Believe me I am not. I have nothing but admiration for the man and his work. He was brilliant as you said. I made a little quip about the warranting (fairness) of his birthday being a holiday because when I saw the words "Happy..." I thought wow... I never heard anyone wish another "Happy MLK..." I mean I know that the kids in schools will probably devote the entire day to discussing him and that's nice, but how many great, key men are we forsaking as we celebrate Dr. King's birthday? Doesn't it seem to do the opposite of what Dr. King spoke about? I am fairly certain that Dr. King's intent was equal opportunity, not special priviledge. Instead of a level playing field we flip the scenario? That's not what he was about.
 
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Well, since the day is over with, I'll say this.

MLK WAS a GREAT man. I don't think anyone here will argue anything different, however, how many OTHER great men has this country had and why don't they all have holidays named after them?

MLK is the ONLY holiday we have that honors ONE man. I have a problem with that. How many equally great men are there in this country's history? LOTS.

I'm not trying to start an argument, and I will now state that I will not post again on the subject regardless of the responses, but I do think that things aren't all on a level playing field here, or a LOT of GREAT men would have their own days.

Dangit TC, you put that big long post in there while I was typing
 
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Well, this was a nice thread about a great man.

Good bye to that.

---and for the record, I agree with you guys, I just didn't want this thread to be about that. We don't have to make a political statement with every thread around here. And to avoid doing so, isn't being PC. This could have easily been done in another thread, to which I'd just chime in.

I just wanted to celebrate his greatness. :(
 
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MLK is the ONLY holiday we have that honors ONE man. I have a problem with that. How many equally great men are there in this country's history? LOTS.

Not true. Columbus Day (white man). Christmas (Jesus was Semetic. Also Caucasian)
 
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Yes, MLK lived in the land with the 1st Amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech...........however, at that time (the '50's and prior), I believe that amendment did not particularly apply to blacks......at least in the South. MLK was all about ending segregation.....the right to vote, to eat where everyone else eats, to go to the bathroom where everybody else goes, to drink where everyone else drinks, to go to school where everyone else goes to school, to speak freely and not be lynched. Until the Civil Rights Act was passed, those of color had no such "rights". Speech was one of his non-violent tools. There wouldn't even be a holiday, but some dumb-ass white man thought he could stop the movement by killing Dr. King.

Affirmative action and the designation of "official holidays" are the function of our government and, like nearly everything else they do, it makes no sense.
 
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Not true. Columbus Day (white man). Christmas (Jesus was Semetic. Also Caucasian)

Jesus was a white man!:shock:

I could have sworn he was from the middle east


BTW. I went to work on Monday
 
Smart man indeed, but not entirely correct about the crucifixion--at least how I read it. The part about two men fell below their environment (hell) and Jesus rose above (heaven)...is not correct. Read for yourself, Luke 23:33-43.

I am not pretending to be a Biblical expert, but recalled the story differently and just happened to be sitting in a hotel room next to a copy of an apparently unused copy of the Bible. Thanks Gideons.

BTW...I had monday off and celebrated it the way I do every year...thanks for having a birthday during hunting season.
 
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Jesus was a white man!:shock:

I could have sworn he was from the middle east

LOL! Yeah that's a common misnomer. The Middle East is primarily caucasian in race, but dark in color.

Arabs and Jews from the Middle East are Hametic or Semetic (often referred to as Semito-Hamitic) which biologically are Caucasian. So, yes they are dark-skinned, but racially Caucasian in terms of genetics. The same goes for Indians (East), they are biologically Caucasian.

Another example of this is how Japanese folks are White colored, (usually whiter than most Northern Europeans) however, biologically are considered Mongloid. Likewise, Thais are Dark-skinned Mongloids.

But hey, we're all mixed at some point in time!
 

:rofl: :rofl:

Oh man, my side is hurting, I just had some funny, yet twisted thoughts when you were digressing about the semantics of Semetics.

After catching part of Blazing Saddles on AMC this afternoon, I just had a thought of Clevon Little yelling out while wearing a KKK robe.....

"Where da white women at??"


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I don't care who you are ... thats FUNNY:D
 
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Oh man, my side is hurting, I just had some funny, yet twisted thoughts when you were digressing about the semantics of Semetics.

After catching part of Blazing Saddles on AMC this afternoon, I just had a thought of Clevon Little yelling out while wearing a KKK robe.....

"Where da white women at??"


:purple: :purple: :purple:

I don't care who you are ... thats FUNNY:D

THAT'S A GREAT MOVIE! Classic! :purple:
 
Only on Jeepz can a thread go from MLK's birthday to what color Jesus was then end up with quotes from a classic comedy.

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Good times!
 

Only on Jeepz can a thread go from MLK's birthday to what color Jesus was then end up with quotes from a classic comedy.

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Good times!

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