Hello, I am new here and this is my first post. I only wish I would have found you guys a week ago. Anyway, I won't waste too much time...I have one question and what is to follow is me simply venting. If you know the answer to my question I would like to thank you in advance, I will greatly appreciate your response.
Will the pitman arm from a ZJ ('93-'97 Grand C, right?) work as a dropped pitman arm for a YJ? YJ in question is a '91 4 cyl with a 3.5" lift.
Okay, now my frustrating experience. The YJ is my 17 yr old brother-in-law's. For Christmas his parents paid for a 3.5" Black Diamond lift and I offered to install it (free w/his help). So, he jumped on the horn with Quadratec and Ordered up said kit. As most of you probably already know, Superlift bought out Black Diamond and Quadratec made a deal with Supertech to liquidate all the old stock. The kit we received (which I later found out) was pieced together with original gangsta BD (Black Diamond) springs (double wrap style) and Superlift hardware (track bar brackets, bolts, etc.) Somewhere in the mix we didn’t get the rear brake line relocation bracket or the freakin’ transfer case drop kit. On top of that, the instructions were a joke. The rear springs had the wedge blocks (to correct pinion angle) mounted on backwards resulting in me installing the springs backwards. I referenced the fronts to the rears, so they went in backwards as well. The U-Bolt nuts were junks, I know they are fine thread and easy to cross thread on, but I put them all on by hand and hand torqued them only to have most of them strip out. Luckily the U-bolts were in good shape and I was able to use the stock nuts. The rear track arm bolt didn’t come with a nut, so I made a trip to the store and while I was there I scrounged up some 1.5†long 7/8†ID x 1-1/8†OD tubes to use to drop the T-Case so we could get the thing running for him. While installing these one of the bolts was rusted in so tight that it broke the head off trying to come out…
Sorry to complain, but I just had to let it go. Not sure if I’m the only one that had problems with this kit, but I thought I’d share my experiences. I called Quadratec and they didn’t seem too concerned. They said I’d have my parts “in a week or so…†and couldn’t offer up any help on the installation problems except offer Superlift’s tech number. I will give credit to Mike at Superlift’s tech department; he was a big help in resolving the installation issues. As far as Quadratec goes, well, I wasn’t impressed to say the least.
The adds for the kit states that they use softer spring rates but I don’t believe it. The thing rides like a brick. I’ll install the springs the ‘right’ way and give it a few hundred miles and see what happens. Also, the kit’s total lift was 5.25†in the front and 4†in the rear. The before measurements were taken off the old stock suspension that had 130k miles on it if that matters. I thought the backwards springs might have something to do with it, but Mike at Superlift doesn’t seem to think so. Yes, the kit was somewhat cheap ($550) and I understand that you get what you pay for, but I think you should at least get all the parts and some decent instructions.
Again, sorry to b!tch,
Andrew
Will the pitman arm from a ZJ ('93-'97 Grand C, right?) work as a dropped pitman arm for a YJ? YJ in question is a '91 4 cyl with a 3.5" lift.
Okay, now my frustrating experience. The YJ is my 17 yr old brother-in-law's. For Christmas his parents paid for a 3.5" Black Diamond lift and I offered to install it (free w/his help). So, he jumped on the horn with Quadratec and Ordered up said kit. As most of you probably already know, Superlift bought out Black Diamond and Quadratec made a deal with Supertech to liquidate all the old stock. The kit we received (which I later found out) was pieced together with original gangsta BD (Black Diamond) springs (double wrap style) and Superlift hardware (track bar brackets, bolts, etc.) Somewhere in the mix we didn’t get the rear brake line relocation bracket or the freakin’ transfer case drop kit. On top of that, the instructions were a joke. The rear springs had the wedge blocks (to correct pinion angle) mounted on backwards resulting in me installing the springs backwards. I referenced the fronts to the rears, so they went in backwards as well. The U-Bolt nuts were junks, I know they are fine thread and easy to cross thread on, but I put them all on by hand and hand torqued them only to have most of them strip out. Luckily the U-bolts were in good shape and I was able to use the stock nuts. The rear track arm bolt didn’t come with a nut, so I made a trip to the store and while I was there I scrounged up some 1.5†long 7/8†ID x 1-1/8†OD tubes to use to drop the T-Case so we could get the thing running for him. While installing these one of the bolts was rusted in so tight that it broke the head off trying to come out…
Sorry to complain, but I just had to let it go. Not sure if I’m the only one that had problems with this kit, but I thought I’d share my experiences. I called Quadratec and they didn’t seem too concerned. They said I’d have my parts “in a week or so…†and couldn’t offer up any help on the installation problems except offer Superlift’s tech number. I will give credit to Mike at Superlift’s tech department; he was a big help in resolving the installation issues. As far as Quadratec goes, well, I wasn’t impressed to say the least.
The adds for the kit states that they use softer spring rates but I don’t believe it. The thing rides like a brick. I’ll install the springs the ‘right’ way and give it a few hundred miles and see what happens. Also, the kit’s total lift was 5.25†in the front and 4†in the rear. The before measurements were taken off the old stock suspension that had 130k miles on it if that matters. I thought the backwards springs might have something to do with it, but Mike at Superlift doesn’t seem to think so. Yes, the kit was somewhat cheap ($550) and I understand that you get what you pay for, but I think you should at least get all the parts and some decent instructions.
Again, sorry to b!tch,
Andrew
The local bone-yards have some sort of rape-you return policy :twisted: so if I buy it either it works or I have a new center piece to give to my wife for Christmas. :roll:
