I have a 1972 amc jeep cj-5. It has the stock 3 speed transmission in it still. What i am looking to do , is put a newer automatic 5 speed trans in it. What would be the best fit for this model? Could i use a newer jeep trans?
TH350 would be my guess or 700R4
The 5's, like my 3B have a length issue with AT's and driveshaft shortness issues. That's why I leaped for the F134 so I could use the stock transmission. The buick I was going to use had a th350 behind it and although they said it could be done and indeed HAS been done, I don't like super shorty driveshafts.
I second this, go with a 700R4 variant. Relatively cheap, very plentiful, and relatively easy to find. They also have overdrive so you'll save some gas. From what I hear they are also easy to rebuild (compared to other automatics, of course; no automatic transmission is easy to rebuild.) Also note that in 1990 the 700R4 was renamed to the 4L60, they are essentially the same. There is also the 4L60-E, introduced in 1992 iirc. This is the electronically-driven version, so you'll probably want to avoid this model. However, if you need something REALLY strong, go with the 4L65-E. This is an upgraded version of the 4L60-E with stronger planetary gears and a stronger output shaft. It was introduced in 2001 to accommodate the extra power (300+ hp) from the Vortec 6.0L. The 4L65-E is also electronically-driven, and you will probably need the entire donor ECM and harness with some wiring hacks to make this one work.
Also, avoid any modern automatics made by Dodge. They fall apart after 30,000 miles from being overly complex. I had a '98 Grand Cherokee with the 318 V8 and the automatic, it died at 90,000 miles and had already been rebuilt twice before I even bought the Jeep, so I just sold the truck to avoid the hassle. Also my roommate has a '96 Dodge Ram with the same engine and trans, he's pushing 250,000 miles and has already done five transmission rebuilds and two replacements. Besides that, I've never heard anything good about them. I can't comment on the newest of their transmissions (i.e. the past five years) but I will say that the 90's/early 00's stuff is crap.
Just keep in mind that any 'modern' trans is going to require a computer, which will complicate the installation (sensors, wiring etc), and quite a few of them are trouble prone.
There's a lot to be said for the fundamental reliability of the 3 speed TFs.
I have to agree a CJ5 is not suitable for an auto, the rear drive line will be way too short. The only exception that may work is if you were to swap in a Chevy V6 in lieu of the I6 which would allow you to move the motor & trans forward but even then that might not be enough, I’d need to add it all up to be sure. If an auto is something you just can’t live without, sell the 5 and trade up to a 7, and then you will have enough room for an auto.
Didn't the CJ5 come with TH400 and QT? (I have a DJ-5 with 998/NP208 installed and IIRC it's shorter than a CJ5. Don't have the driveshaft rigged up yet though)
Yea the cj5 did come with a auto but it was with a v8 and a quadratrack...the amc 20 is offset and the motor sat clear to the front...still used a short drive shaft...and then when u lift it u going to pay big bucks for a driveshaft to fit it...if u can get one.....
I think quadratrac was only available in cj7s. I just swapped a quadratrac driveline from a 79 cherokee into my 90 yj. It uses a gm Turbo 400 with an AMC bellhousing bolt pattern. I kept my 258 in its stock location and the rear driveshaft is 18" long @ center of travel. Since a cj5 is 10" shorter than my yj (at least) that would give you a driveshaft length of 8" or less. If length isn't an issue the turbo 400 is one of the best auto trans a person can get. They are basically bulletproof. The qtrac tcase has a bit of a bad reputation but that is mostly due to a lack of maintenance, but if it gives me too many problems an NP205 will go on the back of the 400. As far as a big bucks driveshaft goes I used a cj drive shaft and had it shortened for $40.
I was thinking that they did come in the 5's..... maybe not...
As for your driveshaft do u have a lift??? I have a cj5 with 4in's and 35's and my shaft is short with a t15 and a dana 20....how is ur pinion angle????
Thats what i was thinking...so they should fit in a 5 also because of that....i will have to check and see about that...i was going to do the 4.3/700r4 swap but sold the blazer instead...just holding out for a cheap cj7 and swap all my stuff over to it....