Engine/Transmission Lifting

[jay79cj7]

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I am ready to move my 258/TH400 over to my new frame. How the heck do I do it? I know I need an engine hoist, but the details are what elude me.

Can I lift the engine/transmission/tcase all together, or do I have to take them apart?

What do I lift it from? My buddy says you just hook on to some hardened bolts and lift it up. Where am I supposed to put these bolts?

I have never been around an engine pulling before, and so my first experience will be this weekend, I hope! I need to get moving!

Thanks,
An inexperienced amateur trying to make/fake it through.

 

[Junkpile]

RE: Fuel system...

Here's a pick of one being pulled out that I found on the net. You can see how they ran the chain from one end of the engine to the other, connecting one end to the drivers side and one end to the passenger side to balance it. It will be hard to balance with the Tcase still on there, but I usually leave the transmission connected. If you have another person to lift the trans/tcase while you work the hoist on the engine end, you could probably leave it all connected since you are putting it on a bare chassis.

Be careful. Wear gloves and keep all body parts out from under it while it's on the hoist. I've had a loaded hoist tip over with me before.....it's not a pleasant experience.

 

[jay79cj7]

Thanks JP. Are those chains just tied off around the accessory brackets? I have had one guy tell me to get some sort of eye loop bolt to fit to the engine, another to use grade 8's... I want to avoid it falling on me too! I don't have enough time to heal from that.

 

[jps4jeep]

RE:

Instead of looping around accessories, my perfered method is to find some threaded holes in the block casting. on front and one rear, one drivers side, one pass. side. thread the bolt that will fit the hole through the chain link and into the hole. then find the most median part of the chain and lift, havinga buddy around to help manipulet the drive train to pull out of the rig is a plus!

If it is a V8 you can buy a carb plate and lift off of that, just don't use any holes in the manifold or anything aluminum.

 

[jay79cj7]

So how big do these bolts need to be? (diameter) And do you use grade 8, or is 5 good enough?

 

[Junkpile]

RE: Touching tribute to the armed forces, and families

I think it just looks like it wrapped around the brackets in the pic.....I'd assume it's bolted and the part that looks like it goes around the bracket is just some excess chain dangling. I'd rather use grade 5 for this because of how you will be side loading the bolt.

To help balance the assembly, you may want to try hooking to the chain a couple of links off center--towards the back, that will offset the weight of the transmission some.

 

[GaryMB]

According to my chiltons manual you attatch the chain to the studs holding on the engine head. It worked for me when i replaced the motor mounts on my I6, but i bet putting bolts in the block would work too.

 

[jay79cj7]

Well, I guess I will try and keep my fingers crossed. So do you think a bolt between the transmission and engine is a good place to put the rear driver side of the chain?

The local rental shop is offering me a 1500 lb capacity hoist. It seems like that should be enough, right?

Normally I would just go and try to do it and everything would turn out ok, but with the possibility of failure being a really screwed up engine/transmission sitting on the floor of my garage, I am a little hesitant.

 

[jay79cj7]

I was a little nervous to do this, but I shouldn't have been. It couldn't have gone any better. I took off the valve cover, and used 2 of the head bolts for the hoist. I balanced the auto transmission and t case using a jack stand. Lifting up the engine allowed me to get the old frame out. I replaced the jack stand with a board between 2 cinder blocks. I slid the new frame through the gap between the blocks, put the new frame back into position, and dropped the engine back down. No problems whatsoever. Now I have my old powertrain sitting on my "new" frame, and I am ready to begin phase 2, reassembly.

Thanks for the advice guys.