is there such a device?

pghpenna

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1066382

My gals 93yj 6 cylinder has been acting up again, makes a clicking sound when attempting to start. Instead of making the dealer/parts store wealthy due to my poke and hope diagnosis I would like to purchase a hand held device that displays codes or numbers to pinpoint the problem? If so approximately what is the cost and where can I purchase such a device? Thanks, Frank[addsig]
 

1066384

yea,there is a device like that,but i though that only the dealers had that.and if they don't those things are provably very expencive.check your starter or distributor.what kind of noise is it?
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1066387

I haven't heard the noise yet because it wasn't happening all the time, However my gal said it happened every time she tried to start the jeep today. I recently replaced the starter/and solenoid and last week I installed a new battery. If I had to take a guess I would think relay or voltage regulator, but I am shooting from the hip until I can hear the noise for myself. Thanks, Frank[addsig]
 
1066391

There's a much cheaper way to find out the computer error codes. Get a Haynes manual or wait for Tug to come around. Basically you turn the ignition on-off-on-off-on-off and then on and your dash lights will blink out codes that correspond to the same error diagnostics the Dealership uses. Get a Haynes manual and it tells you how to do it and what the error codes mean. It's kinda like morse code.

Is the engine turning when the noise is heard or is it nothing? If the motor is not turning, it could be a bad connection on the battery or a bad ground. If the Jeep starts up some of the time, and with no known pattern, bad connection would be a good bet, especially if you recently replaced the battery.

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1066395

I would check the Cables at the Battery and on the starter. sounds like one is loose. I used to have to crawl under my first truck and tap my starter with a hammer to get it to turn sometimes.[addsig]
 
1066413

If your jeep is throwing a code for a faulty sensor, you can save the big bucks at a shop for diagnostics by following this easy process to figure out what is wrong with your jeep. 91 through 97 (verified, possibly works with newer too) models only.

Start with the ignition off. Within five seconds, switch the key on,
off, on, off, on. (On is not start!)

The "check engine" light will flash. Count the flashes
Each code is a two digit code, so a (for example) 23 would be
FLASH FLASH---FLASH FLASH FLASH

It will never flash more than 9 times, watch for pauses!

55 is end of codes, 33 is normal if you dont have air conditioning.

Please note that some codes are NOT included below, this
is not a complete listing, but it IS very close to complete.

88 Start of test (This only appears on DRBII, it's not blinked out)
11 No ignition reference signal detected during cranking (bad hall
effect)
OR timing belt skipped one or more teeth; or intermittent
loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor
12 Memory Standby power lost (battery cable disconnected)
13* No change in MAP from start to run
14* MAP sensor circuit open or shorted; voltage too low
15 No speed/distance sensor signal
16* Loss of battery voltage detected with engine running
17 Engine stays cold too long (bad thermostat)
21 Oxygen sensor signal out of range, possibly shorted
22* Coolant sensor signal out of range (or disconnected to set timing)
23 Intake air temperature signal out of range
24* Throttle position circuit out of range
25 Automatic Idle Speed (AIS) motor driver circuit shorted
or target idle not reached, vacuum leak found
26 Peak injector circuit voltage has not been reached
27 Logic module fuel circuit internal problem
OR
27 TBI injector does not respond properly to control signal
31 Evaporator Purge solenoid circuit open or shorted OR
Evaparator solenoid circuit
32 EGR system failure OR
Power loss lamp open or shorted
33 Air conditioning clutch relay circuit open or shorted
34 Speed control vacuum or vent solenoid circuits open or shorted
35 Cooling fan relay circuit open or shorted
36 Wastegate control circuit open or shorted
37 Shift indicator light failure, 5-speed (blown bulb) OR
Park/neutral switch failure
OR
37 Torque converter unlock circuit open or shorted, A-413 4-speed auto
41* Alternator field control circuit open or shorted
42 Automatic shutdown relay circuit open or shorted
42 Fuel pump relay control circuit
42 Fuel level unit - no change over miles
OR
42 Z1 voltage missing when autoshutdown circuit energized (whatever
that means)
43 Peak primary coil current not achieved with max dwell time
OR
43 Cylinder misfire
43 Problem in power module to logic module interface
44 No FJ2 voltage present at logic board
OR
44 Logic module self-diagnostics indicate problem
OR
44 Battery temperature out of range (see Note #1!)
45 Turbo boost limit exceeded (engine was shut down by logic module)
46* Battery voltage too high during charging or charging system
voltage too low
47 Battery voltage too low and alternator output too low
51 Oxygen sensor stuck at lean position
OR
51 Internal logic module fault ('84 turbo only)
52 Oxygen sensor stuck at rich position
OR
52 Internal logic module fault ('84 turbo only)
53 Logic module internal problem
54 No sync pickup signal during engine rotation (turbo only)
OR
54 Internal logic module fault ('84 turbo only)
55 End of codes
61 "baro" sensor open or shorted
62 EMR mileage cannot be stored in EEPROM
62 PCM failure SRI mile not stored
63 Controller cannot write to EEPROM
64 Catalytic converter efficiency failure
65 Power steering switch failure

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1066450

The self-diagnostic test is great IF the computer has thrown a code and the check engine light comes on. If not, no good. I doubt her problem has thrown a code. Sounds like a bad connection getting juice to the starter, maybe a loose or corroded battery terminal. Just sit on your hands and don't touch it until Tug comes around :roll: :lol: [addsig]
 

1066476

Bounty Hunter is right. The affected part of your Jeep has to be connected to the Jeeps computer via a sending unit or sensor. If it is something like the starter or the battery, then codes will not be brought up in the computer. Also, even when you get codes on your computer, make sure to troubleshoot them with a manual because sometimes you may get a code related to a specific component ,eg.. Oxygen Sensor, and the sensor may be perfectly fine, but something else may be affecting its operation. [addsig]
 
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