Professional courtesy?

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mingez

mingez

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Hi all.

As many of you know I am moving up to Denver to pursue a career in Radiation Therapy/Nuc Med...(still haven't decided)

I am doing so Early January. I'm faced with the dilema of how to actually break ties with my current employers. I want it to be amicable for both sides, however i'm concerned that it may not be possible.

Why? Because my company has an unwritten policy of letting people go when someone even hints at the possiblity that they may be leaving. I NEED to work right up to the time I am about to leave (so as to maximize my earnings and ease the transition from Professionally employed, to poor starving student)
Also, I'm having to lie about my intentions to my staff, which is killing me. (we are very close)

And since it will be obvious that I've been planning this departure for quite some time, I'm concerned they will feel betrayed, and this is not something I want.

And thoughts, ideas? What would you do?

Anyone know of some legalities I should be aware of? NM is an "At Will" employment state.
 

Don't screw up your job dude. If the crew really cares, they will understand when it's all over. If not.....oh well, don't screw up your income over it. I would tell them prior to telling my boss, like tell them at lunch and your boss at the end of the day.

Two weeks notice is plenty for your employer. I've been on both sides. On one hand your employer deserves that time to make adjustments, but you can't risk your income by telling them early if they're going to be jerks about it.
 
Yo Mingez--Since the company is known for their "habit", then we could assume that all of your staff also knows...type up a letter now and DATE it voicing your concerns as you stated above and make enough copies for staff. Right after you tell the boss, hand each of your staff a letter. They will understand why you didn't inform them earlier and still feel like they found out at the same time as the boss. Win/win for you and the staff. LBR
 
Yo Mingez--Since the company is known for their "habit", then we could assume that all of your staff also knows...type up a letter now and DATE it voicing your concerns as you stated above and make enough copies for staff. Right after you tell the boss, hand each of your staff a letter. They will understand why you didn't inform them earlier and still feel like they found out at the same time as the boss. Win/win for you and the staff. LBR
 

Since the company has a reputation of "letting go" of people upon notice, it would be best to keep quiet to them. Don't dare feel pity for not telling them if they are the ones that leave you feel threatened if you do so. I am a strong supporter of the "make them feel their ignorance" attitude. A two week notice is completely sufficient and quite professional enough in your case. If they have a reputation for letting people go upon notice, then they should be well capable of finding replacements.
 
Well, first thing you need to do is get yourself a high capacity assault weapon. Go to work early one day and find a nice place to..........oh sorry.....read the question wrong. If they're going to dump you then f' them tell them the day you're going to leave. Coworkers may get mad at you.....friends won't.
 

I've been in the same boat before, twice. The first time I gave my 2 weeks notice and they fired me on the spot. The second time I clocked out at the end of my last day, turned to the boss and told him I won't be back....ever. My co-workers at both places still keep in touch, and fully understand the reasoning behind my moves. I say tell the boss as you're walking out the door.

Oh, one job I didn't give notice....I just quit coming to work while I was working at another job. Went on for a week and a half till my boss saw me at the other job.....I got a nice chuckle out of that. Otherwise, that would have been the job with the assault weapon usage......
 
ill give you this one from a different perspective. my dad owns a remodeling company and i usually work with all the guys at some point, most of them i get to like eventually. earlier this year three guys quit on the same day to go work for another company, no notice no nothing. yea it may have been better for them, but geuss what, not only did my dad want to hunt them down, if i wasnt at school i would have hunted them down. point being the boss has a lot more to deal with when someone drops immediatley than when theyre given notice. at least tell them at the beginning of your last week.
 
I think I am going to tell them the beginning of my last week. (i still have a week of vacation that they will have to pay out)

Currupt, I too have been on both sides of the equation. Does your dad's company fire someone when giving 2 weeks notice?

At this point, I have to feel "Better them then me." It's not my obligation to sacrifice my income to help out a company who has a reputation for being ruthless. If your dad's company honors the 2 week notice, then I'd say he was right in feeling slighted by his 3 employees that left him high and dry.

In my case, the stores will be fine. I'm the GM, but I have 3 Assistants, who can carry on without me (just as I've trained them to)

I like what Snitty said about making them "pay for their ignorance."

LBR's idea about a note is a good one as well.

Another concern is the type reference they will give me for future employment purposes. I know they can only give info on when I worked for the company, but you all know how that goes.
 
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I would give the normal two week notice. These guys will be called when you are interviewing for your next job, so it's best to leave on good terms.

If they choose to fire you, just say fine, and strutt down to the unemployment office for your 6 months of free money. Read this - http://jobsearch.about.com/od/salary/a/fired.htm

"Unemployment insurance benefits are available for workers who are unemployed through no fault of their own." If they can you, and it's not for misconduct, then you get a free severance package!
 
mingez said:
I know they can only give info on when I worked for the company, but you all know how that goes.
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I *think* they are able to say if you are re-hireable, but that probably varies state to state
 
Don't know what it's like there but here in Canada, it's illegal for your employer to fire you unless he has just cause. Firing someone for quitting could cost them a lot of money here. You could get a lawyer and if you win, they would have to pay you a severence package which I think is 1 week for every year worked at the company. If I were you I would either lie to them about the reason for quitting or look into the legalities and find out where you stand. You could also possibly use your coworkers as witnesses to you quitting and not actually being fired (I've heard of companies saying they fired people before they quit therefore they don't have to pay a severence package).
 

Craig said:
but here in Canada, it's illegal for your employer to fire you unless he has just cause.
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Right Craig....Next your gonna tell us you dont' pay for health care!
 
TerryMason said:
I *think* they are able to say if you are re-hireable, but that probably varies state to state
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That would be lame, seeing how 99% of the employees who quit are NOT rehireable via company policy. Unless you went to war, or had an illness something like that, they will not rehire anyone for just "Quitting". On numerous occasions I was instructed NOT to rehire employees who have come back and requested their position back. No matter how wonderful they were, or what my opinion was.
 

currupt4130 said:
yea my dad does honor the 2 week policy, he encourages it.
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There you go...different situation.

I'm dealing with a company that "Walked" a manager out the door the minute he mentioned he was planning on going back to school 4 months from that time. (Just one of several examples)
 
Really? I worked for EDS, and there were tons of people who quit and came back. Thinking about it, I know 2 people a my previous company that left then came back. Probably depends on employer.
 
Give the two weeks Mingez. See, if you give your two weeks notice and they don't terminate you immediately, then you've done the right thing and Karmic balloons will fall from the heavans.

However, you're planning on going to school, right? Terry hit on something about unemployment. If you quit, you aren't eligable for unemployment, but if you're fired... It shouldn't matter that they "only" screwed you out of 2 weeks pay, you're eligable for the max term. So, if they fire you, you'll have a layover period with no pay, but you will get pay (probably at 60% your salary) for 6 months. That would ease the transition into poor college student.

My point is giving the standard two weeks is win-win for you.

Whatever you do, good luck in school!

-X
 

I'm moving out of state from New Mexico to Colorado. Do you think I have any issues there, in terms of unemployment?

Also, being "fired" is a black eye. And I know my company fights unemployment tooth and nail.
 
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