Yeah, maybe so. KS doesn't have a "point system" on licenses, so I don't know what all is involved there. Also, can't really say as I know how much it would have increased his insurance, or how much total money that would have accounted for in the long run. I do know that when I got my last ticket, it was far cheaper to take the diversion program than it would have been to hire an attorney (cost of the fine + $25 for diversion fees), and it kept the ticket off my record so long as I don't get another for a couple of years. That was 1 1/2 years ago at least, so I've got 6 more months of best behavior driving to go!!:lol: