Whiskey Snips & Throwout Bearings

[MadMiracle]

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Hey Everyone; haven't posted in a while, but here's my story and a question. A few weeks ago I noticed fuel leaking from the right rear corner (just under the spare tire stopper) of my 90' Wrangler. I shut off the engine and then unscrewed the shroud in that corner and looked up with a flashlight. I saw fuel leaking from what looks like a whiskey snip bottle, but a little bigger and thicker and made of black rubber. The "neck" part of it is clamped to the metal fuel line while the "bottle bottom" is clamped to what looks like a solenoid and an evaporative emission hose. The leak came from a crack in the "bottle neck". Luckily, there was enough of the neck below the crack for me to clamp it around the fuel line. Here's the question; What the hell is that "whiskey snip" looking thing called and can I pick one up at an auto parts store or do I have to go to a bone yard? It's not leaking now, but the rest of it didn't seem to be in great shape. (There was an incomplete crack in the body of the "snip").

OK, now the throwout/release bearing thing. With the clutch plate engaged (pedal released) I hear a whirring sound. The sound immediately goes away when I disengage (pedal pressed down). I imagined it to be the throwout bearing. I brought it to a specialist and he said it might be a worn bearing or something in the transmission. That didn't go over well with me because the guy I bought this Wrangler from, told me in the beginning it needed a new throwout bearing, but apparently I just plain forgot. I still don't remember him telling me that, but that conversation was weeks before I brought it to this specialist. So, I got a second opinion from another specialist. "It's the throwout bearing", he confidently said after listening to it with me. What does anyone else think?[addsig]

 

[Jeff_C]

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Your fuel thing is your roll over valve. My 90 YJ's broke off also. I used large heat shrink and electrical tape to put it back on. It's a vent for your tank but if your Jeep ends upside down then the valve shuts to keep all the fuel from spilling on the ground.

Your clutch area noise I dont know. If your going in there I recommend you replace the clutch, pilot bearing and throwout bearing. If your pulling the transmission yourself, there are two bolts at the top of the bell housing (one on each side) that are 12 point heads and they can be difficult to see. I rounded the heads off before I got a good look at the bolt head. I had to lower the engine to get to them after I'd rounded the heads off.

The pilot bearing on mine was stuck good. I had to grind and pry mine out. The needle rollers were falling out and had to be changed. It must of been the source of most noise.
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[Snitty]

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yeah.. if you're gonna replace one part... you might as well replace it all.. the pilot is something that many people don't think of replacing, simply because they don't know it's there, or don't know that it can come out. I don't think that the pilot is your problem though, that would usually make noise when the clutch is disengaged. As for the throwout... if the bearings inside it go bad, get loose, or just lose shape... it can lose its balance and tend to fall onto the input shaft. when the shaft is spinning, the bearing should be able to sit basically still... if it is bad, and falls, the input shaft can grind against it and that could be your noise... lets hope that's it... because the next problem in line could be your transmission..
push your clutch petal until it catches the clutch springs... just enough to pass the play, and maybe a little more, but not to disengage the plate... if the noise goes away, its most likely the throwout[addsig]

 

[MadMiracle]

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Thanks jeff C and Snitty. What I did was put slight pressure on the stick into first gear while slowly pressing down on the clutch pedal. As soon as the noise disappeared is when it went into gear, but that would mean the clutch disc was disengaged. So would that mean it's a transmission problem?

I planned on buying a clutch kit anyway. I thought about the pilot bushing and the possibility of worn or damaged fingers of the pressure plate as well. Besides, I burnt the clutch disc a little after towing my friend's F-150 out of some mud. Those are the days I wished I had a winch. That whirring noise was there long before that anyways.

I won't be doing it myself since I lack the equipment, space and most importantly the knowledege. I know the flywheel'll need some machining, too.

edited by: MadMiracle, Apr 18, 2003 - 01:33 PM[addsig]